..Freedom3..

It is official they launched a complete assault on Helldemon's embassy earlier today, killing his army and then proceeding to smash his palisade, then upon entering took a level out from his embassy. This development also comes with an offer, apparently Freedom3 has offered the original V_S alliance a wing invite, and demand compensation for an attack placed by the member darrkmp, whom I had the misfortune of kicking because of his foolishness. DO NOT ATTACK FREEDOM3 AT ANY COST!

I do not know the status of this offer, but it is completely obvious that something is direly wrong with this chain of events. Even if our alliance does indeed become a Freedom wing, it will only be to escape the potential war against an alliance we cannot defeat.

Ouch..

This is indeed bad news..
So, any particular reason for this s***, or they just started hungering for wings?

Either so, if we really shold become a wing, it is best to just do right ahead - this way, we might not seem afraid or fragile, just flattered by the offer, and willing to join in..

Even so, just my 2 cents..

Sparta is being very rude about the whole situation, demanding that we pay reparations and even though I offer him reparations he tells other members to pay up. It is beginning to annoy me. Basically he just pulling the shitty card of telling us that we have to pay for the mistake of an idiotic aliance member, you can tell there is hardly a large amount of intelligence in that proposition...

its sort of a gesture that says, "i am far more superior than you are, you must subject to all my needs."
Based on wat you guys say(i hvnt check on the status we're in), i reckon that we are not in the position to oppose him/his alliance.

Therefore, it leaves us no choice but to:
1.be a wing of another large alliance
2.be a wing of his alliance and subject to wateva he says
3.fight til the end, even if the end means total destruction of our alliance.

I for one would go with the 3rd choice. But im in no position to say because of my pop.

I would say the third but I have worked too godamn hard building my village up in the last few months to have some jackass burn us down. Besides, I have a personal NAP with them so I myself am not going to get attacked(as cruel as that may sound, because I took the time to work an offer out with Sparta301 before this inevitable war broke out). Several members of this alliance or my wing precisely, may recall that I warned about this war all the way back on the Reapers forum. Ozna, I personally like your attitude, but it will not be total destruction it will be annihhilation, we are less than half as powerful as they and I believe that only one member of ours actually has catapults.(although I did build my workshop yesterday XD)

As far as the attacks, I have stopped them, as far as I know, and am paying the reparations caused by a member that isn't even a member any longer! I don't get what exactly his planning is like...

Here are the choices....

1. Remain resistant to their alliance, however declare a NAP and NEVER attack them again.
2. We join their alliance, it isn't the most glamorous of the choices but we will gain protection from freedom attacks which a lot of us really need, like Gizmo III, and Sir Jay alot....
3. Fight for no reason whatsoever with a weakened embassy and be destroyed...

i had been scout by one of large member of freedom, its wondering me.. what would happen next. i just start playing travian for 1st time, and im not enough for this if my village was collapse.

I am really cross with SPARTA301. him and i used to be really good friends, until he joined another alliance group after the fall of REAPERS. he even canceled the confederation with my alliance. i contacted him, and he said his alliance was reviewing their confederations and NAPs, and that my alliance was next to be 'reviewed'.

he has been very quiet and does not like to say much in his messages. i definatly think his allince and its other wings are preparing for war on all of us.

if he wants V_S to become a wing, then all other V_S alliances should also do so. that way, we are still a united force. our alliance group is no where as powerful as his alliance group, so we should take up the offer, as a united force. v_S should never break up, escepialy seeing as REAPERS was broken up. i also think, to keep his alliance happy, we could all contribute to the compensation demands.

what does everyone think?

slysnake-leader of V_S.1

Yes I want to take his offer... but he has not said a word to me about it in three days, almost like he disappeared. I was offered membership into a Meta so our alliance joined it. Does anybody remember the Hyborean Wanderers? They are starting a more coordinated Southeast alliance. However, I must say I have ulterior motives to this... I may be able to stop the attacks of Freedom3 by joining and give us an outlet so as that we do not have to become wings... BTW that is why the word TAG~ is now in front of the alliance name.

but whatever happens, i dont want us to be split up once again, especialy after the collapse of REAPERS. why did the REAPERS alliance group break up again anyway?

Break up "again" ?
They broke up before? :b

Anyway, I actually have no idea.. maybe some problems with too many outstanding enemies, trying to tear us apart.. It's hard to hold on, when you're not a super power, but just a semi super power, or however you would say it.. :b

i saw the reapers screwed down by E-Torz, now E-torz going to buried HW alliance, no one knows about our alliance future, if the war between freedom still go on.

Who are the E-Torz? I have never heard of them. Actually as a Reaper Wing I was never attacked, not even once. It was a rather prosperous time for my village. V_S was wing 13 which was the most active. God we never shut up now did we? Actually we left the reapers to avoid precisely this attack XD. I have some good news for a change though. We are now part of a Meta with the HW alliance. Which at rank 44 is more powerful tahn Freedom3. Still better, Freedom three is a part of this Meta... therefore we may be able to declare nuetrality against this war he trying to stir up... I have sent more details to the alliance leaders to tell them what they must do.

yea, because there are strong ex-reapers in freedom 2, such as SPARTA301. he nevr talks to me anymore...

You mean Freedom3? He talks to me enough about how much he hates HeLlDeMoN and only trusts me(no lie he has sent several messages just stating that out of the blue). I never told anyone what he asked did I? He said that he would offer us a confederation if I deleted HeLlDeMoN's account XD. He has gone mad.

so u know Helldemon's password??? lol, i just hate SPARTA301 now, he used to be my best friend on Travian. I think war is imminent...

No I don't I'm his sitter XD.